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Angela - That is great news..You are lucky to have such a wonderful and supportive mom..good luck saving for your TR. Financially, it was hard for us too, but it was well worth every penny..I feel great now and life is good.
I wish nothing but the best for you as you move forward on this journey..
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Many women who suffer from PTLS symptoms benefit from tubal reversal surgery. It's important to keep a positive frame of mind going into surgery despite the adversities you may face. You're making the best decision for you. Stay positive!
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Thank you to all of you who have given me moral support through trying to get the courage to talk to my mom about this. I was so afraid she was going to be against it since she was the one who talked me into the TL to begin with. But I sent her an email, I was still too chicken to bring it up one the phone. I explained to her everything that I have been going through. She emailed me back and said she was sorry that I was going through so much but that she would support me no matter what I decided to do. She said she had never heard of PTLS but it does sound like a lot of what she has gone through. And she did say that hysterectomy was not the answer because it hasn not fixed any of her problems with the exception of eliminating her period but it has caused other problems, so she would not advise me to go that route. I thought, good, because I don't intend to. Anyway, she even offered to take time off of work and come down for a few days and watch the kids and dog while I go have my TR and help me through the recovery. WOW!!! Now if only I could get the money saved up for the TR and get it scheduled!!!!! Anyway, thank you all so much for your support, you have no idea what a blessing you are.
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TheMZd - That is one serious concern I had when considering the TR surgery..I was NOT signing up for an early hysterectomy..no way..Despite the fact that I will be paying back the TR cost to our savings for a few years..it was worth every penny. I am healing fast and I never felt better! Life is good right now just 5 short weeks after surgery..Now I have to convince my MD to discuss my case wtih any other her patients considering TL..That will be a real victory for me..converting my first MD to the realm of the open mind!
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Everyone has an opinion and I am sure at some point your mom will get on board and support another grandchild...What grandma doesn't sign up for that??? I am sure she wil come around..PTLS is misery and if she understands that eventually then she will want nothing but a renewal for you and your body. I know what you mean about the DH. After a couple of years of no sex and distance and edginess amongst other things (and before I started researching on my own) he wrote me a long emotional letter because he could not talk to me and was questioning if I was "no longer in love with him"..I really was so mixed up that I did not know WHAT was wrong with me. I even thought he was right but I was an emotional mess. I thought he would leave me and I thought he might cheat with a needy friend of his also going through a bad marital patch and wating to divorce her cheating husband.Our communication broke down too and we did not talk about anything that we were feeling..I WAS PHYSICALLY, EMOTIONALLY AND SEXUALLY NUTS!..unrecognizable in my own body and mind...slowly dragging, "existing" rather than actually "living" life..Well, I never expected to find myself whole again this fast. It is almost 5 weeks post TR and I am a completely different person..he told me "You're back"..I feel great..still want to lose like 15 pounds to get back to my old pre third baby clothes (LOL)..but my symptoms are fading fast and I am able to have sex again (which I thought might take the longest to fix...) and actually chasing him for it (LOL..TMI!)...Things are good. The only thing is that it is happening for me so fast that my mind and body are not healing at the same pace so I still feel a little "disconnected" with all my old thoughts and regrets wandering around my brain even though I feel better. I am working on that. At some point, everything will just click and harmonize I guess..Being on these boards is dangerous form someone like me. Being a mother is the one role I feel makes me whole. It is what I am good at..Hearing all these stories has kind of been making my ovaries twitch again (baby#4??...not) and I have no intention of giving in to that particular feeling. I think it is all just the surge of hormones coming back making me go a little crazy..I am 43 and we have a complete family, and we are now on the mend. I do not regret my decision to have the TR at all..You have to do what is in your heart..just yours and your husband's..It is your partnership, your family and your love for eachother that will take you to the right place and give you your answer. Good luck with your decision and I hope it brings you peace..Let me know what you decide.
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Thanks Tracy and everyone else who has postes. My husband and I have talked a lot about this over the past few weeks and we both have decided that we difintely should do everything we can to save of the money to get the TR as soon as possible. I want relief from the PTLS. The mood swings, needing isolation, and the lack of a normal sex drive is ruining my marriage. DH thinks I'm not attracted to him anymore and that is so far from the truth. He doesn't understand why i prefer sleep over sex most of the time....honestly I don't understand it either. I just know that it didn't used to be this way and since the TL it just gets progressivly worse. We also want another baby. We have 1 child together but we have 3 other children that are from previous marriages. I share custody of my 2 with my ex. Its a 60/40 custody and he sees his daughter 4 days a month. My mom thinks we have plenty of kids and that is why I dread telling her. I just don't want negativity thrown at me. I'm tempted to not tell her and just wait til I end up pregnant and say, "Suprise" But I think that may make her even more mad. I know I should pray about it and ask God to give me the right words to say to make her understand but it's still scary!!!!!!
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You need top put yourself first and take your cue from your body. Assuming that the women who post here and have not yet had a TR.. have had other causes ruled out for their symptoms they need to take control of their own situations and not rely blindly on the naysaying medical lemmings who have no experience with PTLS and lack the open minds to at least consider the possibility of it..My MD is not a believer either and I entrusted her with my OB/GYN care for 22 years so far. I am trying to convert her!..My outcome will undoubtedly open her eyes to at least the "possibility" of PTLS..On this board a completely different reality is shared by the many women who have seen relief with the TR.
BabyPrayers...only you can pick the road to travel nest based on your own level of comfort. We are always here to listen and support no matter what.. Keep the faith and know you will be in great hands at CH if you take that road!
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We have had many patients come here for PTLS symptoms, and many of they say they feel much better after tubal ligation reversal. Please let us know how we can help you as you go through the decision process-
Best wishes,
Caryn M. Hertz Director of Anesthesia Chapel Hill Surgical Center
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Doctors are not going to admit this exists, or there would be huge outcries for all the suffering their little procedure causes.
My mom had her tubes tied when I was still pretty young - I was around 7. (I'm going to be 42 this fall). Within 5 yrs she was so ill and so miserable. Periods that lasted weeks, cramping so bad she could hardly walk, migraines that could not be controlled. She ended up with an emergency total hysterectomy at 34 for uncontrollable bleeding that they couldnt explain.
Talking to her about her symptoms before the hysterectomy is amazing - all the same things I went through (except the hemoraging) - all the same things you ladies go through. And ladies, hysterectomies in my mother's peer group were VERY COMMON for the same symptoms back then! This isnt a new thing - PTLS has been around for many many years and the medical community still will not admit that the procedures have damaging effects on our bodies.
I hope that one day doctors will be more honest about all of this mess.
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I was offered the Pill for my bleeding too and I was 40 at the time so I was not going there..3 years later and tons more symptoms...I was still not going there and then found this site and had my eureka moment..I am sooo glad I had the TR surgery. I wish every doctor who dismissed all of the women here could go through PTLS for just a couple of months just to give them with a small dose of the hellish reality we have all been living in!
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Babyprayers I agree. Absolutely. LOL I'm like your mom I think but I think also if she were me she'd probably really be throwing maxi pads at these Dr.s saying TL is fine! LOL It's real. Lordy she'd probably go off on the Dr.s that did it!!!! Seriously what are your options, same as mine were pretty much, hysterectomy or BC pills, which are just plain dangerous, all you have to do is watch the commercials, strokes, blood clots and heart attacks are not glamorous.. They are scary. I know a lady at 30 who had a stroke from BC pills. It happens. The older we get the worse of an option it is. My results weren't "kind of" results they are so obvious. Print it out and let your mom read. I don't know what your PTLS symptoms are, but mine were fog headedness, tiredness, insane bleeding, debilitating pain with ovulation, uterine pain. All of it gone for the most part. When I O on my non tube side, I have pain, but still it's nothing like I had. I hav eone good connected tube and it really pulls a lot of weight. I feel pretty good.
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I suggest you print our stories off the computer and show your mom. Tell her you love her, respect her opinion and truly need her support as you try to get your health and life back for yourself and your family. Tell her you want to feel whole again and you want her holding your hand as you recover from it!! Ultimately you need to follow your own heart on this. I have seen improvement since my TR (6/2) after spending 3 years in misery. My 1st period was shorter, less cramps, my energy is back, no headaches, no acne, my sense of doom and aversion to sex is gone. Show your mom the blog on my story and lengthy list of symptoms attributed to my TL. I had no explanation given to me either and all negative tests, and yet..my health is improving as a result of the TR. PTLS is real and it is about time doctors started pulling their heads out of the sand,opening their eyes and actually LISTENING to their patients. (HERE I GO AGAIN. SORRY!) We know our bodies best and we are not all simply "mental" or "menopausal". That arguement is getting really old. I have normal hormone levels at 43 so I could get pregnant if that is what I wanted (I don't) so noboby can tell me I went into immediate pre-menopause the day after the birth of my son/TL. I hope your mom is able to give you the support you need. If you do decide to get the TR..you will be in excellent hands at CH..
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LOL all I can say is those are the Dr's I want to throw maxi pads at LOLOL
My period the month I scheduled TR was 14 days long. I got my TR done it's been 8 months. So far they are a consistant 5 days long. They've not been 5 days long since before I got TL done.
I had every test, from hormonal, to Laparoscopy, to US's over and over, and everything showed normal levels, normal appearance. But I still had abnormal bleeding and pain. My only solution other than TR was hysterectomy or BC pills. Hysterectomy being the best option for me. I opted to try TR glad I did.
It worked for me. I tell you it's worth it. It may not work for you but for me there is a 110% improvement.... It's made my life a lot better I'm so grateful I found Dr. Berger and had it done!!!! Anyone one that tells me PTLS isn't real, I'm sorry but I was near hemorraging every month now I'm not??? and my only treatment was TR??? Whatever. Trust me it's worth a shot. I'm sure some other ladies can drop in here and tell about their before and after experience. It's been great for me thank God. I thank God every month... Thank God for Dr. Berger and everyone there, doing what they do everyday. They are changing lives for the better. I've had 2 losses, MC and EP but the overall improvement is priceless my life is back. I don't have to plan my life around my period anymore. I have my freedom back.
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