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You would think with all the side effects from a tubal ligation that dr's would explain this and insurance's would consider a TR and pay for it, I mean that is a health issue if we have to go on anti depressants and pain pills. I was 23 when i had my TL and regret it, I plan on having the TR surgery this summer I'm 39 and want a baby more then anything. And more ready then i was when i was younger. There should be a form that we can sign to get enough women together and fight this with insurance companies.
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hey wend, my husband said i should get the tl since i was already in the hosp having a child too. now just like you i regret it sooooooooooo bad, i was in tears too when they took me to surgery. I have awful mood swings now and other bad symptoms as well, had my tl almost 3 yrs ago.but hopefully will have the tr done by this summer, when do you plan to have the surgery. where are you from. i hope you can find a way to come up with money, i sure hope the reversal will help all of our awful symptoms.
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Hi everybody! I'm thinking of having the TR done because of post TL problems, including tender, swollen breasts ten to fourteen days before my period, intermittent heavy bleeding, headaches, and so on. My dr. is in total denial that these symptoms are in any way related to the TL, but I am convinced and become more confident every time I read more on it that it's why I'm miserable.
I'm 31 and had my TL four and a half years ago, post 3rd baby, and at the utter insistence of my now ex-husband, who said as long as I was in there anyway, I might as well get it done. I remember lying on the operating table, arms tied down, and tears pouring down my neck because I didn't want it done. Now that I know how terrible it is, I would never recommend it to anyone. I had a D*C a little over a year ago, which found only a polyp that was scraped off, but no other physical reasons for the problems I'm having. I can barely stand to have a shirt touching my breasts on the worst days.
If I can have a TR and feel even a fraction better, it will be well worth it. I'm afraid it's a ways off in my future though, being a single mom now.
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Hi, Everyone thank you so much for putting your personal problems down in writitng for me! I thought I was the only person in the world that had gone nuts! I had my TL 10 1/2 years ago and have not had the bleeding and cramping some of you have described but I had never had a migraine before my TL and even though I desperatlety want another baby if that dosen't happen and I just go back to my pre TL self (hopefully migraine free)The TR will be the best thing I could ever do for myself and my family. Good luck to all.
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Hello ladies. My name is Cassnadra and i had a TL in Sept. of '03. I just quit nursing my baby, she is now 5 mo. I just had my first period and it was unusually heavy for my first one, usually i start out pretty lite til i get back into my regular pattern. My experience thus far has been the sadness and regret of what i had done.My Dr. said i needed a TL due to having 4 children via c-section.He never discussed w/me what to expect. I was totally clueless. When i went in for my check-up i told my Dr. that i was feeling really sad and depressed and that i felt incomplete as a woman. His reply was, "It's all in you'r head" I look to be having my TR soon, as soon as i lose the weight i have gained from being depressed. I will be starting Prozac soon to help with the overwhelming emotions i have been having ever since my TL in Sept.I agree totally, there should be some sort of counsel given to woman who are considering a TL. It would only take an extra 10 min. for the Dr or a nurse to go over the procedure before you sign the consent form. Women NEED to be AWARE that there are side effects. Hinde sight is 20/20 it's just a shame we didnt know then what we know now. Thank you to all that have been giving me support.
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Dear Ladies I just have to say what a relief it was to read that I am not the only one who was effected from the TL....I never put two and two together untill after i found this site...
I have had, and still do have terrible periods and pms...from mood swings to make people think that i had a split personality...not to mention a flow that had me almost at the hospital a few times thinking i was bleeding to death...
Even now..my breast are so sore two weeks before my period that when i take off my bra that i could cry...and I too get pinching in my sides that cause me to have to lay in bed...that is just the periods...
Dont even get me started about the anti-depressants i have been one for almost 6 years...my Ex always made excuses... Now i hear this stories that i am not alone and it makes me feel a whole lot better let me tell you...
In all my heart i wish now that i would have never had it done...but what is done is done...i just thank god that there is help (TR) its just to bad that it has to cost soooo much...
Here in canada a TL is free...our medical system covers it...so there is no charge for that...but to have TR is a drain of the savings but i know will be worth every penny
I thought I'd add my .02 here with my thoughts on this subject. I agree 100% that there are negative symptoms that happen once we have TL. I wanted to share that I had my reversal over 3 weeks ago and have felt so much better with my body. My original reason for reversal is to have another child with my husband and haven't started ttc yet. I was 21 when I had my TL and am now 32. While I had my TL, I had those symptoms of painful menstrual cramping, severe PMS associated with depression and mood swings before my periods, also heavy bleeding and usually clotting. Now with my reversal, my body has gone through a positive change for the better even my husband noticed a change in me before I had my period . No mood swings or depression, I did not have the painful cramps, my period was not heavy, what a relief! The way I see it, God made our bodies the way they were supposed to be with our fallopian tubes in tact and whole. We, for some reason or another, made a decision without knowing it would disrupt that delicate structure and our cycles by having TL. Then our bodies try to function as normally as possible with the blocked tubes, and we end up having these horrible symptoms. If I had known that these negative emotional and physical symptoms would happen with TL, I would not have had the Tubal Ligation. I'm so happy that I got a chance to have a reversal, now I feel whole again. CH staff and Dr. Berger were so wonderful. God Bless!
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Hi had my reversal 2 weeks ago and cannot believe the changes I have already felt. Had tubal ligation after 4th child, and with in one month such severe horonal drops and sexual side effects, was unbelievable. Three days after my reversal changes already stated and now at almost 2 weeks, I am so hopeful, will be testing hormones this next week to see the data difference. These problems do exist and even though for some a tl is fine for others it is not. Dr. Berger and his staff have helped me no doubt. It is worth every penny to feel whole again.
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We women who experience all these symptoms should now understand that we aren't alone anymore. More and more women are suffering from these horrible symptoms. I think maybe in the near future Tubal ligations would be done in a way of not disturbing the fallopian tubes or ovaries. One question for you ladies who had your tubals reverse: What kind of birth control are you gonna use after u do get pregnant? It seems weird but for us who have had the tubal for quite a long time have not use birth control in a while. and I really don't want to have a TL again!!!! Thanks for all your helpful post. Take it from a girl who had her tubal ligation at the age of 23 and now is 27 years old and regreting it. Planning on having my tubal reversal in the future. Just saving enough dough for it!
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Alice922~ We chose TL for mostly the same reasons I also had a c-section and since they were in there to go ahead, I was just telling my dh how ironic this is because in a attempt to save money it is going to cost us more then if we would have waited. $100.00 extra and thousands to have it reversed. I did want to comment on the Vasectomy though, Please research it there are negative side affects. I know 2 men personally that had to have it reversed due to extreme pain, from the sperm granulizing(SP?). That would really suck if you later had problems with it.
Dalinna~ I also thought I was losing my mind until I did a TL side affect search online. If only I had done it 2 years ago I am certain I would have convinced myself not to do it. I have not been on antidepressants (YET?) I cannot say for sure, but I think as long as you go off of them prior to becoming pg you will be fine. Definatly consult your dr. about it I know some are stronger then others and some you can't just quit.
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I have been having all of these symptoms for 15yrs. now. I had my tubes tied, by my ex-husbands demands, after our second daughter. I have been on anti-depressants for this whole time also. This makes me so mad, because, I thought it was all in my head and I was the problem. I was never as depressed and upset at everything until I had my TL. Now, I want to schedule my surgery for Feb. or March and I'm worried about the effects of my anti-depressants on our potential baby. My boyfriend and I have been together for 5yrs. now, and we want this so badly. I have been putting off getting married because I'm afraid that I can't give him the child he deserves. I don't want him stuck w/a person that can't give him a baby. I just wanted to see if anyone else has taken anti-depressants and got preg. , and what was the effects on your pregnancy? Thanks everyone for being here, you all really mean alot to me. You all have helped me more than you know.
WhatdidIdo - I TOTALLY agree. Doctors don't have to agree that PTS exists -- but I DEFINITELY think they should inform potential TL-seekers that there are women who have had TLs who later describe certain changes they're not happy with --and let the woman decide whether she wants to risk it. It is only FAIR!!
I specifically asked my DR if TLs had any side effects or hormonal ramifications and he said NONE. It was simply a permanent barrier method, he explained.He said since the ovaries wouldn't be touched and the uterus left untouched -- you were simply blocking the pathway between the two. Very simple...or so it sounded but looking back I'm almost surprised I didn't think it through more - simply because I truly believe the female body and all of its inner workings are more complicated and delicate than we realize and interrupting it in this way HAS to result in consequences. Heck -- even when Mother Nature upsets the balance (AKA menopause) -- it rocks the boat! So you know when WE choose to do so, there has to be some consequences...
I just wish I had thought it through more prior to having my TL and I keep saying that to my husband - but he reminds me that we had so much on our minds just before the birth of our 3rd child and we both knew one of us HAD to undergo something because getting pregnant has always been frighteningly quick and simple for me and we knew we did not want any more children -- and though my husband offered to have a vasectomy, I was having a planned c-section and my doctor would be "in there" anyway - it seemed like the simplest way to handle it all at once. I think my hubby feels guilty now also because so many of his friends have had vasectomies with no negative results whatsoever -- I am one of very few women we know who have had a tubal since so many of their husbands have had vasectomies -- and I am experiencing this sort of on my own.
TinaF - thanks for "butting in" as you said -- I appreciate any input so butt-in all you want! It is encouraging to hear that you've had symptom relief from your reversal * that your hubby thinks that in itself is worth the $$. Wishing you good baby-making luck, as well, though...
And thank you for your input, Julia - regarding many of your patients describing symptom relief after reversal. I am in the information-gathering stage of this decision making process and every bit of info helps me (and my husband) decide what makes sense for us!
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Tina is correct! We are amazed how frequently we hear and read that this syndrome does not exist when we see so many women who would prove otherwise! This widespead belief among doctors also means that insurance companies do not recognize post tubal syndrome and do not provide coverage based on this problem. In fact, there is no diagnosis code within insurance companies to recognize PTS. Of cousre, what each of you have experienced is quite real!
The good news is that many of our patients feel that their symptoms improve after reversal surgery.
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Hi girls.....don't mean to butt in, but the syndrome, even if in our head, is sooooo real.
I was only 23 with my TL...no way was I per-menopausal!!
I am now 42 and wanting another baby. And truthfully, after the TR....my husband said he is glad we had it done even if we don't get pregnant. The symptoms are all gone....PMS, clotting, throbbing backache, sharp pains, heavy, heavy flow....going through a pad an hour... So he considers the increase in my quality of life during my period to be well worth the money and effort.
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I never had anything like this prior to my TL, And as far as menopause I am 30. My stomache gets so tender during ovulation I can barely hold my children. I am going to get the reversal, soon. I will not let my dr. not because I do not like her anymore, I just don't like the odds. If I have to pay out of my pocket it is still cheaper for me to fly to CH and have a better chance. There is nothing my dr. can say to convince me this is not from the TL. All I was trying to say is if they do not believe scientifically then they still need to inform women that this is happening to women even if they tell them they don't believe it themselves. Take care!
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